doperdog wrote:Ummm...I think it's time to get your testosterone, and other hormone, levels checked.
JustMe wrote:I have been on subutex now for 5.5 years. I have tapered down from a high of 32mg per day to 8mg per day. I have been on 8mg per day for about a year now. I can't seem to get below that.
Side effects are as follows (none of these were present the day I started sub):
1. I have developed male breasts and not anything small or just from gaining weight (yes I have gained 40 pounds too). It's called gynecomastia. It started about 6 months to a year after I started the sub and it just keeps getting worse and worse. I can't wear a short sleave shirt now, I literally look like a girl. They are huge and just keep getting bigger.
2. Severe dry skin. Not sure what on earth this is about. I just peel away all over.
3. Hypothyrodism off and on. After complaining to my regular doctor about extreme fatigue he tested my thyroid. I was hypo. He put me on pills and they made me go through the roof. I stopped the pills after just 1 day taking them. He tested me again 6 months later and I was normal. 6 months after that I was again hypo. 6 months later I was
4. Severe exhaustion and mood disorder. I have no desire to get out of bed at all. I hate what my life has become and it is 100% due to subutex. My wife does not understand. I have put holes in the wall. I was as laid back and nice a person you would ever meet before I got on this drug.
5. A non STD penile infection. Doctors have no clue what it is. I told them I had never cheated on my wife and we had been together for 15 years. She has never cheated on me and she has no infection or problem herself. They tested me anyway and all STD's came back negative of course. I have been to 2 different doctors and they cannot find out what is going on.
6. Eyesight getting worse by the month. I had 20/13 vision in both my eyes before I started subutex. Now things are blurry. Yes I need to go to the eye doctor but our insurance doesn't cover that.
7. About 60% of my pubic hair is gone, and about 20% of the hair on my chest is gone. The hair on my head is receding slowly but it had started before sub. The pubic hair just recently left in the past 6 months.
8. My body has become like mush. I was 6-2 190 pounds of pure muscle when I started subutex. I'm not bragging just giving facts here to describe side effects. I was a great athlete and ran at least 3 miles a day without hardly breaking a sweat. I don't think I could run half a mile right now. I do not smoke or drink.
Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. It is very scary the things that are happening to me. I just don't know what to do. When I move from 8mg to 6mg I can't sleep at all. No sleep at all. I can make it a week without any sleep before I go back up to 8mg. This did not start out in my head although it may be in my head some now.
When I initially started tapering, everyone said it would be easy to taper from 16 to 2. So when I tapered from 16 to 10 with ease I thought I was in the clear until 2. Nope. 10 to 8 was not easy. 2-3 hours of sleep a night for a week or 2. Took me several attempts to make it. I have tried to go from 8 to 6 probably 5 times. I even went to 7 for a month. 7 to 6 I could not do. I considered suicide because everyone told me that this was impossible. I'm telling you I was in moderate opiate withdrawal.
I honestly believe the 2-3 years I spent sniffing subutex instead of taking it as described messed me up some how. Because after I had quit sniffing it a year and a half ago, I went down to 16mg for a month, then kept tapering. Maybe I should have stayed on 16 longer. Anyway, it's been so long now since I sniffed it. I am going to try again soon to move from 8 to 6 and I really hope I make it.
I have posted this story many times I don't know why but I feel the need to post it again. Subutex has ruined my life and has definitely taken a huge toll on my wife. I try so hard to have energy to play with our 3 year old daughter. Some days I just cannot do it. She would say that I am a great dad but she is getting about 50% of me and that fuking sucks for her. She does not deserve this shit. Fuck me.
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